Alamo Fast Draw Episode 42 Part 3
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Alamo Fast Draw: I want to get to my guest Doug Treadmill AKA Noah Chance.
Gunfighter Jim Martin: Before you get to Doug, I’d like to ask you a question.
Alamo Fast Draw: Yeah, go ahead.
Gunfighter Jim Martin: How did you get somebody as famous as Doug to come on here?
Everyone laughs.
Gunfighter Doug:The same way they got you Jim. How did he put you up to it?
Gunfighter Jim Martin: He’s so famous that everybody out here in Arizona and California is talking about him and I’m afraid he’s gonna have to get to one of the other callers and we won’t be able to get a half thing he says.
Gunfighter Doug: I sense my buddy in the back of all that, you know.
Alamo Fast Draw : [Laughs]
Gunfighter Jim:Yeah. He probably is.
Alamo Fast Draw : Jim said if you want a crowd you have to give them a spectacle to laugh at to keep them entertained.
Alamo Fast Draw: At first when I called him Noah with the AKA there, I expected him to say no, but he said yes.
Gunfighter Doug: Well, it’s hell to be pretty and smart, you know.
Alamo Fast Draw: Ooh. Man.
Everyone laughs.
Gunfighter Doug: I thought you’d realize all of us down here in Texas. We’re all smart, shoot great and we’re smart. Well, the first one don’t have a chance on this caller does he.
Everyone laughs.
Alamo Fast Draw: Competition. There’s always competition in a group.
Gunfighter Jesse James: There ain’t no competition between us re enactors. You have to consider you’ve got yourself some re enactors here tonight instead of just Fast Drawers.
Gunfighter Doug: Hey Dude do you know the most dangerous place for a bunch of re enactors is? Between them and a camera.
Gunfighter Jim:How far are you from Texas right now?
Gunfighter Doug:I’m in Arizona.
Gunfighter Jim: Okay, you sound close right now.
Gunfighter Doug: Are you telling me it’s not true?
Gunfighter Jim: I didn’t say it wasn’t true.
[Everyone laughing.]
Gunfighter Jim: We just don’t talk about that in public.
Gunfighter Doug: Hey W.C. I also am a re enactor. I understand that first hand. But, despite that Jim talked to me anyway.
Gunfighter W.C.: Well, on this show we tried to prevent Jim from talking as much as possible.
[Everyone laughing]
Jim: I think the guys have been really successful at that.
Doug: I wondered if Wes was on here tonight.
Alamo Fast Draw : No, I heard he was in trouble.
Doug: Has anybody heard when he’ll be getting out of the hospital?
Alamo Fast Draw: I haven’t heard anything.
Doug: Okay. I thought he said on the last one, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday he was gonna go in to get his legs shaped so…
Alamo Fast Draw: Right.
Gunfighter Doug: If he should get here later on, I hope he gets a good fit, you know. Although, it doesn’t seem to affect his shooting any.
Gunfighter Doug: Put him on a stool and he’ll shoot just as bad anyway, you know.
Alamo Fast Draw: Well, you know what… We had a little talk you and I earlier this week and we discussed some of the subjects of last week’s shows and we were talking about clothing and stuff and I kind of was interested in that topic. I don’t want to beat it up too much. I wanted to bring that topic up for a few minutes tonight and see if anybody had given it some thought to some of the conversations we had about clothing last week.
Gunfighter Doug: I was listening to it and even though I am a re enactor and I usually do dress in period when I’m shooting, to require everyone to do it, I mean… I mean… That’s um… as long as they’re allowing everybody to wear T shirts and baseball hats, and tennis shoes. If they’re in the TV western type of thing I think that’s all good. That is where the Fast Draw started in the 50’s. That was just my opinion on it which is worth absolutely nothing, but that’s just it.
Alamo Fast Draw: That’s kind of where I came from and Bob and I talked about this too, but this is where I came from. I started watching the Westerns and that’s the clothing I like and that’s the kind of stuff I like to do. I don’t get into the real authentic stuff. Don’t take that wrong. I don’t have any problems with somebody wanting to dress up really authentic and everything. But what I like to do is see the outfits in these Westerns. The 50’s Westerns. I like to look at a lot of that stuff. There’s different ways I like to dress. I don’t see why there can’t be a way to work out with the groups unless that’s what the group is actually, specifically told to dress up in clothes as authentic as possible. I don’t know why that can’t be worked out with most of the clubs… to let everybody do kinda do what they want, but at the same time, they don’t get too carried away which there’s the rut. How do you take care of that? Where do you draw the line? I don’t have the answer to that.
Gunfighter Jesse James: It also depends on the venue of your event. Like with RGA …Their organization is based on authenticity so that’s just one venue there that’s based on authenticity. We have our performance competitions where you’re judged on your authenticity, your entertainment in the show, your acting, you know all these different aspects so if you did come in and compete in what we call an open RGA event and you’re more in your 1920’s gear, your authenticity would kill you.
So if you had a really entertaining show. Your acting was great. Well, you know that authenticity aspect has got a quarter of that score.
Gunfighter Doug: But, you’re talking for re enacting as opposed to shooting so if you combine the two, so are you saying that under CFDA or World or any of them, that you have to be period correct? Because I mean, even as a re enactor you can get a five to a three according to what period is correct.
Alamo Fast Draw: That’s true.
Gunfighter Jesse James: Even in our Fast Draw Club down here with the CFDA use Working Cow Boy all the way back to the Period Old West. Most of our guys like the period Old West, but we have a couple of shooters that are you know just West to Old West. Our founder has recently been doing it when he’s around. He’s West and Old West.
Gunfighter Jim: I wanted to see where the website is at right now. As soon as I figure out where the heck it’s at, I will read what their rule is and that’s what Bob’s conversation was about last week.
Gunfighter Doug: You mean about the clothing?
Jim: Yes.
Gunfighter Doug: It says Late 18th period clothing is the theme. All competitors must dress in appropriate clothes. We strongly recommend guests and family members to be dressed in a theme. Competitors are expected to dress in appropriate clothing including for contests, dinners and social events. Western cowboy boots. Working Cowboy clothing is acceptable as is Fourth period professional. Western style boots or moccasins. It doesn’t say 1880. It doesn’t say period so, you know…
Jim: Where did you find that?
Doug: Actually in the CFDA rule book under clothing
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