Alamo Fast Draw Episode 30 The Movie Red River

19 August, 2008 (23:36) | Fast Draw Talk Show, Western Movies

Alamo Fast Draw Episode 30 Red River
LLedslinger: The Red River its a movie that I have seen many times before because I have watched these movies so many times and I really don't get tired of watching them. I may not watch them every day but I'll see it on a knoll watch it again so I'm going to call it a classic because it's an older movie into something that to watch over and over again, to me that the classic. I think other people have other ideas maybe. I'm going to go to Blackbird first night and see what he thinks about the statement I just made.
Blackbird: I don't think you can get much more classic then Red River. You've got a classic movie, a classic semi western bits about going to see Red River at the local cinema The Last Picture Show. Remember that movie The Last Picture Show where they go to Ben Johnson's movie theater and he runs his print of a Red River and they decide best the best movie there ever was and maybe they're right.
Lledslinger: There are so many of them that I hate to to say the best there ever was for any of them because they were so many good ones. I guess I can definitely see where somebody might think that.
Blackbird: Yes will 1946 and I think it was well ahead of his time in many ways they really draw character and they have some great lines, some great dialogue and the picture.
Lledslinger: Do have a favorite line out of the movie Red River?
Blackbird: I don't know that I do but I generally like the the dialog it's very authentic, not as good as it was going to get in another 10 years. The dialect and the dialogue was very good. Noah Beery Jr. sounds good and a lot of these people could ride to. Either in a particular players you are interested in?
Lledslinger: We're just talking generally. We have several in their, stuff like whether city at the table and their betting on poker and then he wins his teeth there so many good lines throughout the movie.
Blackbird: Chief Yowlachie he was a real Indian and I don't know what tried but I bet Jim knows. He's playing with Walter Brennan for Brennan's teeth as it turns out. He wins the teeth he goes you get'em tooth when I get paid.
Jim Martin: Then he said ( What are you going to do with them teeth. Change name. What are you going to change your name to. Two Jaw Quo.) Because of the teeth. He had such a beautiful voice until you back if it had been another 10 or 15 years later he would've been doing commercials with that wonderful deep voice of his. He was such a unique Indian actor there's not much known about Chief Yowlachie. He was born in 1891 and he died in 1966 his real name was Daniel Simmons that was his American name. He worked in a total of 40 films six serials and 17 features and that's about the extent of what known about him. He's kind of a mysterious guy, he lived out there in the San Fernando valley along with out of the rest of the Indians. Rod Redwing, Jay Silverheels, and one other guy they all lived on Clump Avenue out there in a section of the San Fernando valley were a lot of the minor actors and supporting actors lived.
Blackbird: The one who was Tonto before Jay Silverheels (Chief Thundercloud).
Jim Martin: Chief Thundercloud and his real name was victor Daniels. He worked out there and Corrigan Ville I met him several times out there in fact I think I mentioned to you before about my old friend Charlie Aldridge he was the a guest to call him general fact totem of Coragan Ville out there. Charlie told me Chief Thundercloud actually died in his arms out there in Coragan Ville. Evidently he was getting old and wasn't working very much that he was staying out there finally got sick and he died right out there. At least that's the story I got anyway.
Blackbird: I want is going to say Walter Brennan he was good to listen to for the dialect. A lot of people say but Gee there doesn't seem to be in a real western dialect in these movies. The thing is whether it's intentional or not wasn't much of a western dialect going in the mid 19th century. These are people from back east, the cowboys, the ranch owners, the farmers the way they talked was what they grew up with back east somewhere or down south. Walter Brennan has always been accepted for his rustic dialect but he took it from western Massachusetts. He said one day down on the farm this old east anglian English that the Pilgrims would have brought with them. It's not a western at all but it has a rustic sound to it and people accept it.
Jim Martin: A lot of people don't know this but Randolph Scott got his original start in the movies being a voice coach. It was because of his southern accent, he was actually coaching some of the early actors that were doing talkie movies in the early to late 1929s early 1930s and everything and he was a voice coach and teaching these people to speak with a southern dialect.
Blackbird: It's interesting how the southern dialect in the regional area where I believe he's from which is fairly close to the Gulf of Mexico. They had a lot to do with New York commercially and the similarities between Randolph Scott speaking in his southern dialect same time to go to work in the way the new yorker would say work. That shows that IE and between the two, they had a lot of trade going with New York and you find southerners like Randolph Scott city's time to go to work.
Red River Actor's and characters

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John Wayne Thomas Dunson
Montgomery Clift-Matthew 'Matt' Garth
Joanne Dru-Tess Millay
Walter Brennan-'Groot' Nadine
Coleen Gray-Fen (also as Colleen Gray)
Harry Carey-Mr. Melville (as Harry Carey Sr.)
John Ireland-Cherry Valance
Noah Beery Jr.-Buster McGee
Harry Carey Jr.-Dan Latimer
Chief Yowlachie-Quo (as Chief Yowlatchie)
Paul Fix-Teeler Yacey
Hank Worden-Simms Reeves
Mickey Kuhn-Matt, as a boy
Ray Hyke-Walt Jergens
Hal Taliaferro-Old Leather (as Hal Talliaferro)

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